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Episode 8: An interview with ANC National Chairperson Gwede Mantashe
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ANC national chairperson Gwede Mantashe says he "doesn't imagine" that the uMkhonto weSizwe (MK) Party will be the fifth largest party in the country, as some polls may suggest.
Mantashe says the MK Party has grown its presence in a few regions of the KwaZulu-Natal, like Empangeni and New Castle, because of its "tribal politics".
Mantashe says the MK Party has grown its presence in a few regions of the KwaZulu-Natal, like Empangeni and New Castle, because of its "tribal politics".